Owczarek środkowoazjatycki - Central Asian Ovtcharka

Yurga

Hello Finnland,

I have also been looking for a new dog, before I get Yurga and between here are some "results" without any names of the breeders I ask.
Embarassed

Now we expect puppies from two girls. Working puppies will cost 500 euros, puppies of an exhibition class from 1500 up to 2000 euros. Except for that on sale we have 7 monthly puppy xxxxx, photos which we to you send. It{he} is very similar to grandfather xxxxx the price 4000 Euros.
The grown-up from yyyyyyy, the price 1500 euros.
Younger from xxxxxxxx, the price 1000 euros.
Embarassed

If you are really ready to become his Master, will you please send in the advance payment no less than half his price. The full price will be $1500
Embarassed

later they told me plus 500 for transport!
Embarassed

i can sell for you good puppie, but i cant give to you no
quarancees about HD. Because we dont need it. Just we are looking Hd of our
dogs when they starting to climb. Its all the reasons for our worry about
HD. I finished to do it, because nobody from breeders in Central Asia region
during thousand years was not looking for HD. For them first test is
survival.

I have ask myself what is a survival test, do they mean survival of the fittest or what ?

From most dogs of Russia you get no results of veterenary researchs ( bloodwork, heart, thyreoidlevels, HD; ED , OCD....), so you can have luck or you loose a dog painfully.O.K that can happen everywhere,but in Poland their a some results to be seen and also in Poland are more doglovers than Fighters!!
I`m wondering too why people from Russia want so much money - for what??? Some of them sell more than 70 dogs per year.

What I like is, that a lot of breeders in Poland have bigger gardens, in Germany they breed with 200m2 garden.

In Russia I feel a dog is more for making money, a lot of owners/breeders go to dog- fights! Not all of them have emotions or really love their dogs I think.

In Germany you can get a CAO from 1 Euro up to 2000 Euro, that depends on what is up on the "dogmarket". I will never buy a dog in Germany again, even not rescue , because my experiences here has been enough!

Bujac was born in Poland , but the bloodline is from Kiev.

I have been searching in all datebases to look for a KO or a CAO, it is not easy, but it isn`t depending on the price at all.

So everybody should have reasons why going to this or that breeder, but I never believe that a dog which is more expansive is the better dog.

A lot of breeders in Poland have bloodlines from Russia,so its not neccesary to look only in Russia.

I`m going to get my next dog from Poland soon

and that will not be a CO, but a CAO and I`m very happy about it

A MAO=CAO

Is their a Do Khyi standing next to Gee or a mixed breed?

Finland

Finland

Do you know breeder J.Wiaderny, Warsow?

bartwood

I know him.

Yurga

Hello Finnland,

I mean the black and tan dog next to Gee on the last foto, a Do Khyi?

I`m not sure is this breeder Karagandy Kennel?
They have a website , may be Bartwood or Justyna know?

Also you have two datebase and a lot of work, for me that takes some month to read all

[link widoczny dla zalogowanych] ask Elena Bereza she will help with translating

from Poland here

[link widoczny dla zalogowanych]

[link widoczny dla zalogowanych]

new dates from puppies in Poland most here to find NOWOSCI the dogs are under BAZA Psow

Here in the Forum is a part for breeding ... dates, pictures...

But very often Russian dogs are also the most beautiful ones.. when I look finnish CAO-breeders dogs, they are nothing after Russian dogs. Or Poland.
Fotos can be manipulated or show dogs in a better as they are! So be carefull!
I have also seen a lot of ugly monster dogs (CO and CAO) on fotos from russia, bigger and bigger not alway means better...

Somehow I would take best care in russia that their is not a mixed breed with Mastiff or St. Bernhard in those big dogs, if you need that phänotype.

What type of CAO do you prefer and what should the dog do at home?

Have you thought about Goliat`s babys, the Ezon line [link widoczny dla zalogowanych] ?

Also you can look through generations from F1 to F? to become more sure which type of CAO.

I `m gonna step Very Happy

to your

favourite male from

Poland

proud Bujac ten years on foto
[link widoczny dla zalogowanych]

bartwood

[link widoczny dla zalogowanych] this is website zkaragandy kenel owner is Janusz Wiaderny Smile

))

Finland · Wysłany: Czw 0:18, 01 Mar 2007 Temat postu:

Finland · Wysłany: Czw 0:20, 01 Mar 2007 Temat postu:

Oh and who was this?

[link widoczny dla zalogowanych]

I am stupid Embarassed

Yurga · Wysłany: Czw 9:41, 01 Mar 2007 Temat postu:

Hello Finnland,

a Do Khyi = Tibetan Mastiff
In Germany most epilepsy bloodlines in Do Khyis are opened now!

The University of Hannover is still working to find out what its all about with this :oops:genetic Epilepsy in Do Khyis Embarassed

. Still they have also other problems like demodex, thyreoidproblems... Embarassed

I have been visiting [link widoczny dla zalogowanych] and we have been in contact Rolling Eyes

Somehow the first month after Bujac died I was searching for a male everywhere. I called up breeders in Georgia, Ukraine, Siberia and get big bills for that Rolling Eyes

I blame myself for searching and feel that I was looking only for my dog, but can`t find him.
Often I was getting upset, crying, it was very painfull and not easy to step out for me, my females are crying too- that can be riding on nerves together with epilepsy and the lost... Crying or Very sad

I have been through some heartaches for the longest time, because of my rescued epileptic dog Tatty and I haven`t had the idea that Bujac was going to die last year. He has been to a several vetcontrolls, saying best condition all the time.

After that research for a dog I can`t find at all and breeders I can`t find a way together with, I start to look at Goliat very often.
With help from Yurgas breeder , later Justyna I contact Magaret.

I know that I`m on the right tack now, here are the dates, look at all pages please, Very Happy

the rough boys of winter Very Happy

http://www.ysolom.fora.pl/viewtopic.php?t=309

I have only given the Almaz advise that you can see the Ezonlines, they have dogs in USA and Russia?, but I hate Twisted Evil

that dogfighting websites, what a big bullshit Evil or Very Mad

. A sales promotion,aggressiv for making money on poor creatures back.

If you go to the Datebase click on all relations to look further thats much better to see the "Ezon" .

Did I understant right that you live in Germany? Yes, in the forest of Lünsholz [link widoczny dla zalogowanych] look into Gallery or our working site [link widoczny dla zalogowanych]
On the foto is Bujac, he was from the *Red Army Kennel Bloodline*, a working line.

What school are you doing yet?

Justyna · Wysłany: Czw 20:38, 01 Mar 2007 Temat postu:

Finland · Wysłany: Czw 23:10, 01 Mar 2007 Temat postu:

Finland · Wysłany: Czw 23:12, 01 Mar 2007 Temat postu:

Finland · Wysłany: Czw 23:14, 01 Mar 2007 Temat postu:

Bruce · Gość

Łoo jak tu miedzynarodowo! Very Happy

nie wiele kumama, ale fajne macie te zagraniczne azjaty! Very Fine Very Happy

Może jakis kurs angielskiego dla wszysktich? Laughing

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MOGUL · Wysłany: Pią 11:11, 02 Mar 2007 Temat postu:

To prawda - nasze forum ze względu na swój merytoryczny charakter i dobrą znajomość języków obcych jego uczestników / Iza, Justyna, Karolina, i inni / zatacza coraz szersze międzynarodowe kręgi - dlatego znajomość angielskiego i niemieckiego staje się wręcz niezbędna .... namacalny dowód naszej przynależności do EU a także dobrej opinii o polskich CAO..